Msg #8381 posted 12/19/87 at 10:46 am by Jim Thale To: Rich Jacobson About: stuff & msg (10 lines) Hi there! Politics is heating up and so was my system 'til the Hard disk crashed. Belated thanks for the lecture on the value of Backing- up early-and-often. The folks at CompuPro were incredibly helpful with help requests from a 'lowly CP/M user'. Reformatting and new Z-system & BYE510 are all in the works now that I can start from scratch.... Is NZCOM a salable product yet? Might be worthwhile, so many things don't work with BG and datestamper installed. Trading off RCP for BG sounds good. Kevin Parker promises a Z280 S-100 CPU with half-to-two Meg. in the first quarter of '88, gotta work on the Z80DOS/ZRDOS crowd for multitasking support, thanks bye j. Msg #8395 posted 12/21/87 at 6:45 am by Richard Jacobson To: ALL USERS About: NZCOM (14 lines) Have had a number of inquiries about NZCOM, the upcoming replacement for auto-install ZCPR3/3. It should be out in first quarter of '88. I have used it in beta form and it is superb. Superb is too mundane a word. It makes obsolete all manual installs and will be the Z-System of choice for all users. Why? Taking almost no more space than an optimized manual install, it will permit you to resize your system on the fly, from the command line, through an alias. No more lock-in as far as TPA goes. If you need more room for a particular application, just access it via an alias that removes some of the system segments and associated buffers, increasing TPA. The alias can have an exit command that puts all the segments and buffers back. In short, maximum control of the operating system will be yours. Once again, nothing beats working in a mature operating system environment. Msg #8398 posted 12/21/87 at 5:13 pm by Steve Cohen To: Richard Jacobson About: NZCOM (2 lines) ALL users? Even us XBIOS users? PULLEEZE don't tell me I need to switch again? Msg #8427 posted 12/25/87 at 6:49 pm by Steve Cohen To: Richard Jacobson About: NZCOM (7 lines) Malcom said that XBIOS lacks one important feature of NZCOM which he plans to add in the next version. Actually, it owuld be nice if the two could be kept as compatible as possible. NZCOM sounds so nice it will probably sweep the vanilla Z-world and it would be a drag if things started diverging at this point. NZCOM might even tempt me to put it on my Kaypro, which in terms of anything new, has been atrophied in time since I got the SB180. Msg #8441 posted 12/27/87 at 7:10 am by Richard Jacobson To: Steve Cohen About: NZCOM (7 lines) Yes, NZCOM allows dynamic modification of system size. As I understand, what Malcom plans will cover that in the next release of XBIOS. Compatibility is not and never has been an issue. What you really mean to refer to is the question of whether all the features of NZCOM will exist in XBIOS. The answer is obviously yes, in terms of the only feature that counts - dynamic resizing of system. Msg #8411 posted 12/23/87 at 3:53 am by Fred Haines To: Steve Cohen About: NZCOM and XBIOS (18 lines) Why not both NZCOM and XBIOS? Now that Z system has picked up on the CONIX idea of a dynamically readjustable system/tpa balance, the next thing will be to look at the XBIOS idea of using banked memory for the system. If the BIOS can reside in banked memory, why not the rest of the system as well? With XBIOS we're already warm booting from banked memory, and BGii keeps its command line history processor over there until it reloads on warm boot. Why shouldn't almost all of banked memory be used for the system? I gather that the idea of the "hyperspace" Z system for the Deep Thought 42 does something of the kind. Whichever way this goes, I have the feeling that what Rich calls a "mature operating system" is going to go on maturing and that we'll be regenerating our systems a few more times before we all switch over to the Z280. Anybody who is particularly interested in the OS Scott Moore is developing for Zedux can contact him on Glendale Littera RCPM/QBBS at 818/956-6164. You can also call him voice at his office, but I seem to have misplaced the number. He posted it in a recent message on Littera though, and you'll easily find it there. Msg #8423 posted 12/25/87 at 6:33 pm by Steve Cohen To: Fred Haines About: NZCOM and XBIOS (6 lines) EXACTLY. When Richard said "mature operating system", plenty of Humphs went through my head. Amazing, isn't it, that in our "dead" OS, such improvements are not only contemplated but cranked out. Whereas Misbegotten-DOS has 384K of addressable memory hardwired for system uses and they complain about lack of memory.