AB17 Remote Systems 12/10/1987 QWIK4 is a set of programs designed as an alternative to the most commonly used program database for RCP/Ms, Irv Hoff's FOR.COM and FOR database. The problems of FOR: 1. Too many lines - KMD allows too many lines for the description of files (7). Since the uploader is the one who most often is the same person who makes the FOR entry the result can end up looking more like an advertisement or is full of typos and other misleading errors. The resultant database is often so large that it seems to take FOREVER for KMD to write back the FOR file to disk. This can be very annoying if you are calling long distance, and is, I believe, a major reason why more and more users are avoiding uploads and FOR descriptions. 2. Too many versions - Many programs seem to have a life of their own and are continually in revision. This makes FOR grow at an astronomical rate and contributes to the problems mentioned in the paragraph above. Additionally, when the user actually uses FOR.COM (yes some do!), it fills the screen with the last ten revisions of the program, only one of which may be the desired review. 3. Retrieval too slow - The largeness of the FOR database slows down the string search and causes a noticeable delay when using FOR as a review tool. The use of FOR is multi-purpose; some users want it available as a decision aid in judging the worth of downloading and others want to know what the program really does without going into LUX or LDIR. Some even want to use it to make sure they haven't downloaded it somewhere else or at some other time. The advantages of FOR: 1. FOR saves the sysop time in that the users contribute their time in typing in the descriptions. The sysop can type in his own uploads with the supplemental KNEW program. 2. FOR files can be uploaded to KMD pre-typed if the user takes the time to do it. Very few do this. The proposed solution: QWIK4 solves several of FOR's problems by removing the user from active participation in the FOR entry process. Instead, QWIK4 substitutes the sysop as the primary enterer of FOR data through the use of DBII and a set of programs designed to minimize the time spent in these tedious efforts. The result is a database that is accurate and fast for the user and easily updatable in less time than most FOR cleanup efforts with a text editor. Along with several other small programs the entire database can easily be written out to an ASCII file and converted to the FOR format ready for use by all concerned. If you are not a DBII user the included QWIK4.TXT file can become the seed of your new FOR if you wish to join the growing number of sysops who are tired of maintaining the 7-line FOR program. The DBII approach to FOR: The QWIK4DB.DBF database included in the library is a highly edited extract from the monthly GEnie listing of available CP/M programs and from my own system. This database has several characteristics which are conducive to the rapid retrieval of information via the FOR.COM program. First, each file has only a 60 character description area. This is more than adequate to briefly describe almost any file available in the public domain. Witness the large number of MS-DOS systems which only have a 40 character description for their archives. Second, if the file entry is machine specific or written in a particular language then that is the first word of the description entry. This also applies to all of the ZCPR3 and ZCPR33 entries. This quickly tells the user whether or not s/he has any continuing interest in the file. This also allows for the creation of seperate index files based on subject matter. Considerations: Once installed you may choose never to use DBII again and merely maintain FOR with your favorite text editor. If you also run an MS-DOS board or have your RCP/M split up as both CP/M and MS-DOS you may wish to have two seperate databases. Their are several large lists around for MS-DOS programs which could serve as the starting point of such an effort. Tom Ensminger, Sysop AB17 Remote Systems 513-879-6263