From: ogre@netcom.com (Mr. Ogre)

Subject: Re: Netscape...Netscape... (WAS Re: Help!!! The New Hacker's Dictionary)

Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 06:38:39 GMT

Al Castanoli (afn22800@usenet.freenet.ufl.edu) wrote:
>Mike Czaplinski (mike.czaplinski@washingtondc.attgis.com) wrote:
>: jeffg@wco.com (Jeff Gerstmann) wrote:
>: >
>: >
>: > Netscape is only spooky when you stare at the breathing N for more than 
>: > an hour.  I hurt my face doing that yesterday.  The only thing that stops 
>: > face pain is a complete set of those McDonalds basketball/Looney Tunes cups.
>: > 

>: NO...NETSCAPE IS.......ALL

>: NETSCAPE IS.......PERFECT.....

  I HATE Netscape.  Netscape is the single most evil product ever
designed, implemented, discussed, envisioned, programmed, or otherwise
created for any computer ever built.

  Well ok I'm just pissed because yesterday when I tried to use it it
said "HAHAHAHA This copy of netscape has EXPIRED, you IDIOT!  While it
is still perfectly capable of functioning, we felt like being cold
heartless bastards and making you download a brand new version which
fixes the bug that sometimes causes a single pixel out of every 2000
documents to be drawn the wrong color.  Now please go to ftp.mcom.com
and just TRY to get through, we DARE you!  You will never make it, we
have a 250 user limit and over 10 million people are trying to get the
latest Netscape, JUST LIKE YOU.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  ncftp -r
won't even help you, it's pointless! LOSER!"

  At least I kept an old Netscrape 1.0 around for reasons I can't
recall (considering I am usually short on disk space, it was a rather
odd decision.)  which still works, but all the nifty cool HTML
extensions in 1.1 don't work with it, and there are a lot of pages
using them... all the other suckers in the world didn't realize the
thing was going to expire either.  Gee THANKS for actually MENTIONING
that fact, netscape.  Brilliant move, really.  I hope your ftp server
doesn't crash from the load or anything.  Really I do.

  Anyway, anyone got an alternate site for Nestcrape 1.1b3 or whatever
it is, for Linux?

	Joe



From: dagbrown@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Dave Brown)

Subject: Re: Netscape...Netscape... (WAS Re: Help!!! The New Hacker's Dictionary)

Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:37:11 GMT

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In article <3m4tl5$knt@huron.eel.ufl.edu>,
Al Castanoli <afn22800@usenet.freenet.ufl.edu> wrote:
>Mike Czaplinski (mike.czaplinski@washingtondc.attgis.com) wrote:
>: jeffg@wco.com (Jeff Gerstmann) wrote:
>: > Netscape is only spooky when you stare at the breathing N for more than 
>: > an hour.  I hurt my face doing that yesterday.  The only thing that stops 
>: > face pain is a complete set of those McDonalds basketball/Looney Tunes cups.
>: > 
>:
>: NO...NETSCAPE IS.......ALL
>:
>: NETSCAPE IS.......PERFECT.....
>
>Netscape is an improvement over Mosaic, but the newsreader needs to be 
>redone.  The biggest omission is killfiles, that is unless you actually
>READ those Kurt Kobain and Longest Thread Ever(tm) threads.

Netscape is an improvement over Mosaic, if you don't mind completely
non-standard HTML, and MCOM arrogantly claiming that their extensions,
never mind the fact that they completely violate the whole *spirit* of
HTML (I offer you <FONT> and <BLINK> as prime examples), are going to
be "the next standard".  To say nothing of casually opening up umpteen
net connections at once to grab inlined images (and ignoring your
MAX_CONNECTIONS setting, and MCOM saying they fixed it when they didn't).

The only way it wins compared to Mosaic is grabbing the text bit,
rendering it complete with links, and *then* grabbing the graphics (and
rendering them on the screen so you can see what it's up to).

>Lynx may not be so graphically pleasing, but it doesn't have much 
>trouble running on a 14400 bps modem.

Lynx is a fine browser.  Now if only we could do something about those
people that insist on putting menus in as clickable images, because
everyone has a T1, don't they?

--Dave
-- 
http://armf18.dow.on.doe.ca:6700/~dbrown/  Dave Brown, sysadmin for
Environment Canada.  I charge for any unsolicited advertising that
appears in any system I administer, at the rate of $200/hr for my
time in dealing with the ad (min. 1/2 hr) and $100/kB for storage.



Jesper Nilsson // dat92jni@ludat.lth.se or jesper@df.lth.se